Why would one think black men are exclusively democratic is the other question.
coolasssheeka on
Can we stop giving this energy? We know for a fact that Obama was not speaking for the majority of black men, but we also know damn well that there are a few “black folks” who aren’t democrats/or aren’t supporting Harris cause she is a woman and because of what they perceived she did while in her previous office. Can we spend more energy making sure everyone is registered and educated on the issues so that they *can* vote? Instead of whatever op was hoping would happen with this post? This shit has been run into the ground
Dangerous-Jury9890 on
Because white women complained too much, so they moved to black men as the biggest democratic scapegoat
Somali_Kamikaze on
I think certain people are protesting too much but that’s none of my business
VapidRapidRabbit on
Exactly this. I was discussing this with a white female friend yesterday and she tried to defend black men being used as the scapegoat. If anything, white women, and a lot of Hispanic voters (mainly Cubans) in places like Florida are the ones that need to be educated.
HamsterWaste7080 on
Didn’t Nina Turner refuse to endorse Biden in 2020?
Specific_Berry6496 on
Cmon now, we all know some misogynistic black men who don’t seem particularly enthused about voting for a woman. No they aren’t the majority, just like Uncle Ruckus isn’t a majority, but don’t act like they ain’t out there, talking shit in barber shops, trying to influence the majority with their petty women’s grievances.
I don’t like the way Obama did it, but I have two male siblings, one is not going to vote, and the other is not happy to vote for her, so I understand where he’s coming from.
SW4506 on
Do we think Obama gave that speech randomly? Like, it wasn’t based on some pretty firm polling information. Let me ask another way, have you known President Obama to go out on a limb like that since he left the presidency?
After the election, when the question is answered, are we going to see the apology tweets from all these accounts?
AdPutrid7706 on
There was a narrative in the 2016 election about how black men somehow came up short for democrats, because a relatively small percentage didn’t vote for Clinton. I found that to be disappointing, and there does seem to be an almost like, pre-loading of excuses in case Harris loses, one of which is that black men came up short voting wise. I’m not sure what other demographic is held to such high voter turnout percentage expectations.
Zbrchk on
Not again y’all. Obama spoke to black men because he had a chance of reaching those who are still undecided. That’s it and that’s all. No one is bashing black men as a whole. I have seen more energy online for this than I have for speaking out against all the misogyny directed at Harris from all sides, including within the black community.
MuskyRatt on
They aren’t. Next question.
CharacterHomework975 on
I mean, from this side of the fence I’d guess that Black men are being “scapegoated” because they’re seen as being persuadable.
Easier to try and persuade Black men to set aside misogyny (assuming that’s an issue for a moment) than to try and persuade *white* men to set aside that same misogyny *and* also racism *and* privilege. Which is what it really boils down to, and not just with Black voters. See it to with a lot of the young LGBTQ set that avoid “supporting” Harris due to Gaza. Whole lot of people acting like they enjoy a level of privilege that they *don’t.*
But that’s a choice everyone gets to make for themselves.
Also I’d agree that when a group’s support for Trump is below the Crazification Factor, yelling at that group to “do better” is…probably not going to be productive.
Projectsun on
Please look up stats on eligible voter turnout.
Eligible minorities voters vote LESS.
Yes I understand there are many factors this , but if you treat this as the important duty it is, you will take steps.
You know which groups ( anecdotally and online) I see pitch the “ voting does nothing, don’t waste your time” propaganda ?
I felt that was the underlying message.
rachel__slur on
The true issue with the Democratic Party are the white women who gladly go to rallies and protests and pay lip service to progressive issues; meanwhile, they’ll refuse to have a single conversation with their mom who has a Confederate Flag on her lawn
nopenonotatall on
Obama really upset people huh?
there are still an overwhelming amount of black men supporting Trump. no, they’re not the main demographic, or even the second or third, but the amount of black men supporting him is still surprising
sampoopsincars on
They aren’t, your fyp is just showing you what you wanna see 😂
2MInitials on
Because majority of you guys are beta male mammas boys. We’ve been politically cucked and these Jezebel daughters employed by the democrats don’t respect us. Also, can any of you name me one NGO we have that specialize in combating Defamation?
gotwaffles on
Nina with yet another bad take…
PoMansDreams on
It’s definitely annoying. And the people gaslighting us saying we aren’t being used as a scapegoat are annoying too
BrownHoney114 on
Nina and the Black men crying and moaning are the Ones very much like Karen. Ohio keeps saying no to the grifter Nina.
No-Astronomer139 on
I don’t know why ppl assume Obama is talking to people who voted for Democrats/support Kamala. He’s clearly talking to those who don’t vote, support Trump, or down talk Kamala.
It’s more prevalent than you think. In my group chat there are at least two who definitely aren’t voting for Kamala. And their reasons are the bullshit you see online. Obama isn’t just making shit up to talk. Hit dogs holler.
johnny515000 on
Black men are voting for Trump
rapsnaxx84 on
This is because black male support for democrat nominees has been trending downward since Obama’s 2nd term. Yes majority of black men vote democrat but the percentage has been decreasing over the past 12 years. Not sure if the “move” to Republican Party is even a move or if it’s trump specific. But that is what the numbers show in general elections at least.
Papacapt on
Agreed, messaging has always been divisive in nature towards black men, which some of these men deserve but it’s not enough black men who behave like that to address all black men. The same with most social issues attached to black men… most incarcerated/ and wrongfully convicted, great example of how society portrays us but the energy to make true justice doesn’t apply
itsSRSblack on
Fuck this stupid argument. Accept accountability and stop whining about fair criticism.
Also fuck Nina Turner and her homophobic ass.
hadtohappen on
Does this lady know she’s considered a useful idiot by the opposition?
The_Starmaker on
It’s funny how white women, the largest single voting block, a majority of whom voted for Trump *twice*, always need to be “convinced”. Whereas black men, the vast majority of whom consistently vote blue, are only ever “scolded”.
LivingCustomer9729 on
Obama *reallllly* struck a nerve with some xD
Bright-Director-5958 on
I think so many people who are responding to these poles as black men are your traditional pick-me ass dudes who would be Trump supporters. For all the hub bub about black men defecting. I have yet to meet one who will admit it out loud
SheFoundMyUzername on
It’s easier, and more productive to get someone who leans left to go vote than it is to convince someone to switch parties and vote for you.
TheNocturnalAngel on
Why do people tweet shit with no source and expect it to be taken as fact. Someone could tweet the exact opposite of this.
Kolyma11 on
This feels like the Man vs. bear conversation all over again. It’s just a lot of defensive while refusing to hear out the criticism.
foxy-coxy on
Have a majority of white men supported the democrats since the party re alignment?
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Why would one think black men are exclusively democratic is the other question.
Can we stop giving this energy? We know for a fact that Obama was not speaking for the majority of black men, but we also know damn well that there are a few “black folks” who aren’t democrats/or aren’t supporting Harris cause she is a woman and because of what they perceived she did while in her previous office. Can we spend more energy making sure everyone is registered and educated on the issues so that they *can* vote? Instead of whatever op was hoping would happen with this post? This shit has been run into the ground
Because white women complained too much, so they moved to black men as the biggest democratic scapegoat
I think certain people are protesting too much but that’s none of my business
Exactly this. I was discussing this with a white female friend yesterday and she tried to defend black men being used as the scapegoat. If anything, white women, and a lot of Hispanic voters (mainly Cubans) in places like Florida are the ones that need to be educated.
Didn’t Nina Turner refuse to endorse Biden in 2020?
Cmon now, we all know some misogynistic black men who don’t seem particularly enthused about voting for a woman. No they aren’t the majority, just like Uncle Ruckus isn’t a majority, but don’t act like they ain’t out there, talking shit in barber shops, trying to influence the majority with their petty women’s grievances.
I don’t like the way Obama did it, but I have two male siblings, one is not going to vote, and the other is not happy to vote for her, so I understand where he’s coming from.
Do we think Obama gave that speech randomly? Like, it wasn’t based on some pretty firm polling information. Let me ask another way, have you known President Obama to go out on a limb like that since he left the presidency?
After the election, when the question is answered, are we going to see the apology tweets from all these accounts?
There was a narrative in the 2016 election about how black men somehow came up short for democrats, because a relatively small percentage didn’t vote for Clinton. I found that to be disappointing, and there does seem to be an almost like, pre-loading of excuses in case Harris loses, one of which is that black men came up short voting wise. I’m not sure what other demographic is held to such high voter turnout percentage expectations.
Not again y’all. Obama spoke to black men because he had a chance of reaching those who are still undecided. That’s it and that’s all. No one is bashing black men as a whole. I have seen more energy online for this than I have for speaking out against all the misogyny directed at Harris from all sides, including within the black community.
They aren’t. Next question.
I mean, from this side of the fence I’d guess that Black men are being “scapegoated” because they’re seen as being persuadable.
Easier to try and persuade Black men to set aside misogyny (assuming that’s an issue for a moment) than to try and persuade *white* men to set aside that same misogyny *and* also racism *and* privilege. Which is what it really boils down to, and not just with Black voters. See it to with a lot of the young LGBTQ set that avoid “supporting” Harris due to Gaza. Whole lot of people acting like they enjoy a level of privilege that they *don’t.*
But that’s a choice everyone gets to make for themselves.
Also I’d agree that when a group’s support for Trump is below the Crazification Factor, yelling at that group to “do better” is…probably not going to be productive.
Please look up stats on eligible voter turnout.
Eligible minorities voters vote LESS.
Yes I understand there are many factors this , but if you treat this as the important duty it is, you will take steps.
You know which groups ( anecdotally and online) I see pitch the “ voting does nothing, don’t waste your time” propaganda ?
I felt that was the underlying message.
The true issue with the Democratic Party are the white women who gladly go to rallies and protests and pay lip service to progressive issues; meanwhile, they’ll refuse to have a single conversation with their mom who has a Confederate Flag on her lawn
Obama really upset people huh?
there are still an overwhelming amount of black men supporting Trump. no, they’re not the main demographic, or even the second or third, but the amount of black men supporting him is still surprising
They aren’t, your fyp is just showing you what you wanna see 😂
Because majority of you guys are beta male mammas boys. We’ve been politically cucked and these Jezebel daughters employed by the democrats don’t respect us. Also, can any of you name me one NGO we have that specialize in combating Defamation?
Nina with yet another bad take…
It’s definitely annoying. And the people gaslighting us saying we aren’t being used as a scapegoat are annoying too
Nina and the Black men crying and moaning are the Ones very much like Karen. Ohio keeps saying no to the grifter Nina.
I don’t know why ppl assume Obama is talking to people who voted for Democrats/support Kamala. He’s clearly talking to those who don’t vote, support Trump, or down talk Kamala.
It’s more prevalent than you think. In my group chat there are at least two who definitely aren’t voting for Kamala. And their reasons are the bullshit you see online. Obama isn’t just making shit up to talk. Hit dogs holler.
Black men are voting for Trump
This is because black male support for democrat nominees has been trending downward since Obama’s 2nd term. Yes majority of black men vote democrat but the percentage has been decreasing over the past 12 years. Not sure if the “move” to Republican Party is even a move or if it’s trump specific. But that is what the numbers show in general elections at least.
Agreed, messaging has always been divisive in nature towards black men, which some of these men deserve but it’s not enough black men who behave like that to address all black men. The same with most social issues attached to black men… most incarcerated/ and wrongfully convicted, great example of how society portrays us but the energy to make true justice doesn’t apply
Fuck this stupid argument. Accept accountability and stop whining about fair criticism.
Also fuck Nina Turner and her homophobic ass.
Does this lady know she’s considered a useful idiot by the opposition?
It’s funny how white women, the largest single voting block, a majority of whom voted for Trump *twice*, always need to be “convinced”. Whereas black men, the vast majority of whom consistently vote blue, are only ever “scolded”.
Obama *reallllly* struck a nerve with some xD
I think so many people who are responding to these poles as black men are your traditional pick-me ass dudes who would be Trump supporters. For all the hub bub about black men defecting. I have yet to meet one who will admit it out loud
It’s easier, and more productive to get someone who leans left to go vote than it is to convince someone to switch parties and vote for you.
Why do people tweet shit with no source and expect it to be taken as fact. Someone could tweet the exact opposite of this.
This feels like the Man vs. bear conversation all over again. It’s just a lot of defensive while refusing to hear out the criticism.
Have a majority of white men supported the democrats since the party re alignment?