Like how the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea is totally democratic, right? Its in the name after all
Cinaedus_Perversus on
This isn’t the Socialist Party of Germany, but the German-socialist Party.
‘Deutschsozialistisch’ means something like ‘Socialism, German style’ which gives it away already.
HuRrHoRsEmAn on
Because Nazis are Socialists
SalvatoreQuattro on
German Far Right was staunchly anti-capitalist. The Nazis 1920 Party Program highlights this anti-capitalist attitude.
After the failure of the Beer Hall Putsch in 1923 Hitler decided upon a legalistic approach to “seizing” power. This by necessity meant tamping down the anti capitalist rhetoric as he knew that the best way to achieve power was to work with wealthy industrialists.
Hitler used capitalists just as he earlier used socialists to achieve objectives. He displayed an ability to be flexible when he had to prior to the war.
All this is to say is that the Nazis were neither socialist or capitalist. They were opportunists.They would use whatever means they needed to to achieve their goal.
anima311 on
when people realise you can name your party whatever you want and nobody cares.
TheGreatOneSea on
It’s honestly consistent: Socialism, but only for people considered “German,” and only if said Socialism happens to align with whatever the German Nationalistic Myth of the Week happens to be.
Which is to say, it was equal parts useless and unattractive as an economic idea until the Great Depression awkwardly created a class of people who were both too poor and unskilled to be the factory workers who kept their jobs, but also too well off to risk Communism, with its promise of violence.
SStylo03 on
Anyone who tries to argue the Nazis were socialist either has no understanding of what socialism is or they are being disingenuous because it is an effort to portray that there is nothing dangerous about going further and further right while portraying far left as both communists AND nazis somehow despite the Nazi ideology that considered jews and bolsheviks (communists) the same
Tutmosisderdritte on
That’s an interesting language quirk, as this is nearly untranslatable into english without losing details.
In german you can combine two words into a new seperate one, which can have different properties. In this sense the Deutschsozialistische Partei implies a different meaning than the Deutsche Sozialistische Partei as deutschsozialistisch does not have to be the same thing as deutsch sozialistisch.
Those Hitlerites are quite uncreative when it comes to naming their party lol
ironmaid84 on
for the americans this is the equivalent of naming your party the liberal conservative party, for the english this is the equivalent of naming it the tory labor party
SumsuchUser on
I don’t get what the meme is. You just posted wikipedia at me OP
Jakitron_1999 on
Nazi “socialism” was defined as being anti-bolshevik (cool) and anti-marxist Which makes it explicitly a completely different ideology from all other forms of socialism to the point of not really fitting the name
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Like how the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea is totally democratic, right? Its in the name after all
This isn’t the Socialist Party of Germany, but the German-socialist Party.
‘Deutschsozialistisch’ means something like ‘Socialism, German style’ which gives it away already.
Because Nazis are Socialists
German Far Right was staunchly anti-capitalist. The Nazis 1920 Party Program highlights this anti-capitalist attitude.
After the failure of the Beer Hall Putsch in 1923 Hitler decided upon a legalistic approach to “seizing” power. This by necessity meant tamping down the anti capitalist rhetoric as he knew that the best way to achieve power was to work with wealthy industrialists.
Hitler used capitalists just as he earlier used socialists to achieve objectives. He displayed an ability to be flexible when he had to prior to the war.
All this is to say is that the Nazis were neither socialist or capitalist. They were opportunists.They would use whatever means they needed to to achieve their goal.
when people realise you can name your party whatever you want and nobody cares.
It’s honestly consistent: Socialism, but only for people considered “German,” and only if said Socialism happens to align with whatever the German Nationalistic Myth of the Week happens to be.
Which is to say, it was equal parts useless and unattractive as an economic idea until the Great Depression awkwardly created a class of people who were both too poor and unskilled to be the factory workers who kept their jobs, but also too well off to risk Communism, with its promise of violence.
Anyone who tries to argue the Nazis were socialist either has no understanding of what socialism is or they are being disingenuous because it is an effort to portray that there is nothing dangerous about going further and further right while portraying far left as both communists AND nazis somehow despite the Nazi ideology that considered jews and bolsheviks (communists) the same
That’s an interesting language quirk, as this is nearly untranslatable into english without losing details.
In german you can combine two words into a new seperate one, which can have different properties. In this sense the Deutschsozialistische Partei implies a different meaning than the Deutsche Sozialistische Partei as deutschsozialistisch does not have to be the same thing as deutsch sozialistisch.
Reminds me of the far right proto-Nazi [German Social Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Social_Party_(German_Empire)), which merged with another similar party called [German Reform Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Reform_Party) to form the [German Social Reform Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Social_Reform_Party).
Those Hitlerites are quite uncreative when it comes to naming their party lol
for the americans this is the equivalent of naming your party the liberal conservative party, for the english this is the equivalent of naming it the tory labor party
I don’t get what the meme is. You just posted wikipedia at me OP
Nazi “socialism” was defined as being anti-bolshevik (cool) and anti-marxist Which makes it explicitly a completely different ideology from all other forms of socialism to the point of not really fitting the name