In which corner of the world this is not accepted?
AwfulUsername123 on
I think few people would disagree with the idea that Rome enslaved people, but there is very prevalent disinformation about how Roman slavery was somehow more civilized than more recent slavery.
joemighty16 on
I’m more interested in who thinks otherwise and what their reasoning is.
DeadpanMF on
Wait you’re saying that slavery and genocide were common in all ancient empires??? I am gobsmacked!
ImJustOink on
Pearl Jam “Do the evolution”
Showed it quite colorfully
Distantstallion on
To ravage, to slaughter, to usurp under false titles, they call empire, and where they make a desert, they call it peace.
AristideCalice on
Yeah everybody knows that. You wanna cancel Rome or smt?
Von__Mackensen on
Why is it hard to swallow?
I mean the romans were already auschwitzing Jews 1800 years before Germany was even a thing. Our boy JC gulagged entire Gallic tribes for votes. And lets not forget Cato the elder’s catchphrase: the third Punic war was not about politics, economics or geopolitics; it was about obliterating Carthage from existence, salting the fields, killing everyone and erasing it’s existence from living memory if they could.
And that’s what also makes roman history awesome. Those motherfuckers did not half-ass warfare.
Realistic_Salt7109 on
We know
Tortellobello45 on
Correct, but unlike many other empires they brought civilty, prosperity and scientific advancement.
That’s why the Romans are so appreciated nowadays, unlike, for example, the Mongols
EldritchKinkster on
As far as I’m concerned, those pills are ground up and dissolved in a delicious drink.
CerebralMessiah on
Yes but it’s ok because Jupiter gave the a-ok.
Felczer on
You’re getting downvoted because you’re stating something painfully obvious
Medium_Surprise_814 on
Okay, and?
XVYQ_Emperator on
No shit!
You won’t get my downvote.
blubseabass on
What’s going on here in this sub with all this empire dickweedery contest? It’s sooooo booooriiiing.
Newfster on
To ravage, to slaughter, to usurp under false titles, they call empire; and where they make a desert, they call it peace.
high_king_noctis on
The war crimes are a feature of Rome not a bug!
But in all honesty I think the reason we can tolerate the crimes of ancient empires more than recent ones is because they affect us less today than like how the scramble for Africa has left the continent in misery to this very day
No-Wonder1139 on
Was there ever a question?
Probably_Not_Sir on
🙈🙉🙊
No-Purple2350 on
I know it exists but in what corner of the internet is this a hard pill to swallow? Maybe some of the Romaboos on Twitter?
Former_Actuator4633 on
Is this not, like, widely known? Who disagrees with you?
Sarahvixen7447 on
I think you might be missing the point. The people who worship the Roman Empire see that as a FEATURE, not a bug.
Silent_Shaman on
Pretty much what they’re known for tbf
Such was the fashion at the time, no one believes they just went around making friends and conquering through mutual agreement lol
RaytheGunExplosion on
Um obviously
bimbochungo on
Captain Obvious to the rescue?
Knight_o_Eithel_Malt on
But they were oiled up, gay and wore red while they did it
Ok_Firefighter2245 on
Everyone knows sack of Carthage and siege of Jerusalem
Positron100 on
Vae victis! Roma victrix!
ifrgotmyname on
OP posting the most obvious no argument fact in history and saying it’s hard to swallow…
Platino97 on
We know
Gaius_Iulius_Megas on
Wow, what a lukewarm take.
Mattynot2niceee on
Not exactly a hard pill to swallow but ok
OG_unclefucker on
And they deserved it for not speaking latin.
Don’t forget, if it’s wearing pants give it your hands.
What we burned weren’t people, they were gauls.
Brought to you by unbiased roman history.
TSSalamander on
Rome didn’t just do that, it was incredibly prolific at it
Ceasar’s conquest of gaul was a straight up genocide. mind you, he seemingly didn’t want it to be, but he fucked up enough to where it ended up being his way forward.
Romans were crazy about slavery, and were significantly more weird about it than most other societies with slavery.
CrasVox on
Is this supposed to be a hot take? Rape of the Sabine women is a pretty uniquely horrendous atrocity that even the Romans themselves couldn’t wash out of their history.
Spacepunch33 on
I mean Romans enslaving groups that no longer exist wouldn’t ruffle as many feathers as say, the ottomans or British enslaving and genociding people within the last century, whom still have descendants and survivors that feel the impact, and have people that deny it ever happened
FakeElectionMaker on
Empires and genocide go hand in hand
GrundgeArchangel on
“How dare you? Now please report back to your master for discipline!”- Some Roman Noble, probably.
ThievishGoblin1 on
You mean the people that fought them and lost didn’t willingly put on chains and shackles and go back home with them????
Over_Age_8061 on
U know the rules pal
Genocidal and Tyrannical Empire that genocides civilians: ❎
Genocidal and Tyrannical Empire that genocides civilians, Rome: ✅
Nutinspector69 on
You’re acting like we don’t know that already pretty sure practically everyone did that at some point in their history
Realistic-Safety-565 on
Hard to swallow pills – almost every economically successful republic bigger than a city-state was built by citizens ganging up to exploit non-citizens. Whether the exploited are slaves, serfs, gastarbeiters, economic migrants, or colonial subjects, a republic that makes her citizens rich does it at their cost. The only two republics I can think of that avoided it without being poor are pre-WW2 Czechoslovakia and Finland.
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In which corner of the world this is not accepted?
I think few people would disagree with the idea that Rome enslaved people, but there is very prevalent disinformation about how Roman slavery was somehow more civilized than more recent slavery.
I’m more interested in who thinks otherwise and what their reasoning is.
Wait you’re saying that slavery and genocide were common in all ancient empires??? I am gobsmacked!
Pearl Jam “Do the evolution”
Showed it quite colorfully
To ravage, to slaughter, to usurp under false titles, they call empire, and where they make a desert, they call it peace.
Yeah everybody knows that. You wanna cancel Rome or smt?
Why is it hard to swallow?
I mean the romans were already auschwitzing Jews 1800 years before Germany was even a thing. Our boy JC gulagged entire Gallic tribes for votes. And lets not forget Cato the elder’s catchphrase: the third Punic war was not about politics, economics or geopolitics; it was about obliterating Carthage from existence, salting the fields, killing everyone and erasing it’s existence from living memory if they could.
And that’s what also makes roman history awesome. Those motherfuckers did not half-ass warfare.
We know
Correct, but unlike many other empires they brought civilty, prosperity and scientific advancement.
That’s why the Romans are so appreciated nowadays, unlike, for example, the Mongols
As far as I’m concerned, those pills are ground up and dissolved in a delicious drink.
Yes but it’s ok because Jupiter gave the a-ok.
You’re getting downvoted because you’re stating something painfully obvious
Okay, and?
No shit!
You won’t get my downvote.
What’s going on here in this sub with all this empire dickweedery contest? It’s sooooo booooriiiing.
To ravage, to slaughter, to usurp under false titles, they call empire; and where they make a desert, they call it peace.
The war crimes are a feature of Rome not a bug!
But in all honesty I think the reason we can tolerate the crimes of ancient empires more than recent ones is because they affect us less today than like how the scramble for Africa has left the continent in misery to this very day
Was there ever a question?
🙈🙉🙊
I know it exists but in what corner of the internet is this a hard pill to swallow? Maybe some of the Romaboos on Twitter?
Is this not, like, widely known? Who disagrees with you?
I think you might be missing the point. The people who worship the Roman Empire see that as a FEATURE, not a bug.
Pretty much what they’re known for tbf
Such was the fashion at the time, no one believes they just went around making friends and conquering through mutual agreement lol
Um obviously
Captain Obvious to the rescue?
But they were oiled up, gay and wore red while they did it
Everyone knows sack of Carthage and siege of Jerusalem
Vae victis! Roma victrix!
OP posting the most obvious no argument fact in history and saying it’s hard to swallow…
We know
Wow, what a lukewarm take.
Not exactly a hard pill to swallow but ok
And they deserved it for not speaking latin.
Don’t forget, if it’s wearing pants give it your hands.
What we burned weren’t people, they were gauls.
Brought to you by unbiased roman history.
Rome didn’t just do that, it was incredibly prolific at it
Ceasar’s conquest of gaul was a straight up genocide. mind you, he seemingly didn’t want it to be, but he fucked up enough to where it ended up being his way forward.
Romans were crazy about slavery, and were significantly more weird about it than most other societies with slavery.
Is this supposed to be a hot take? Rape of the Sabine women is a pretty uniquely horrendous atrocity that even the Romans themselves couldn’t wash out of their history.
I mean Romans enslaving groups that no longer exist wouldn’t ruffle as many feathers as say, the ottomans or British enslaving and genociding people within the last century, whom still have descendants and survivors that feel the impact, and have people that deny it ever happened
Empires and genocide go hand in hand
“How dare you? Now please report back to your master for discipline!”- Some Roman Noble, probably.
You mean the people that fought them and lost didn’t willingly put on chains and shackles and go back home with them????
U know the rules pal
Genocidal and Tyrannical Empire that genocides civilians: ❎
Genocidal and Tyrannical Empire that genocides civilians, Rome: ✅
You’re acting like we don’t know that already pretty sure practically everyone did that at some point in their history
Hard to swallow pills – almost every economically successful republic bigger than a city-state was built by citizens ganging up to exploit non-citizens. Whether the exploited are slaves, serfs, gastarbeiters, economic migrants, or colonial subjects, a republic that makes her citizens rich does it at their cost. The only two republics I can think of that avoided it without being poor are pre-WW2 Czechoslovakia and Finland.