I think this is too risky. Ideally, the employee should find out about the salary only at the moment it is credited to the bank account.
Cobolock on
Oh. You guys don’t have salary brackets in jobs offers?
DarthRupert1994 on
If they don’t list the salary, I don’t apply.
AskMeAboutMyHermoids on
If they don’t put it in the description I’m not going anywhere til I talk to a recruiter or hiring manager over the phone/email first to get the specifics and if I’m out of their price range. Also who am I kidding, I’m not taking anymore non 100% remote jobs so I’m not going anywhere anyway.
Artimusjones88 on
If they Don ask. I always discuss range very early. I’m not wasting my time.
TheElderWog on
The one time they didn’t want to disclose the minimum rate, I told them I wouldn’t go to the interview and said goodbye.
Hydraulis on
Absolutely correct. If you want people, be honest with them.
RunninADorito on
Even when they put the salary, it doesn’t include everything that matters for some jobs so these laws have only helped a bit.
Tech, for example, basically meaningless numbers.
Skydragon222 on
I strongly agree, but this isn’t a facepalm
MissUnderstood62 on
They passed a law here in British Columbia that all job postings must have the wage/salary posted.
li-ll-l_ on
How about put the *correct* salary in the description??? I set time aside for an interview that listed $17 an hour only to be told at the end (an hour after the interview started) that it was $15 an hour
slapchop29 on
$50k-$250k. Lol this happens a lot as well in NY State where there supposed to post it. The ranges need to be narrower where they do post the salary.
Public-Eagle6992 on
How is this facepalm?
Brewchowskies on
Canada, specifically Ontario has made this a law. There are ways around it (putting vague salaries), but it’ll be interesting to see the effect it has on negotiation when you can better see what comparable jobs are paying when it’s time to talk salary during the hire.
Block444Universe on
Yes! Also, nobody should have to put all that effort in with applying and then getting first phone interview just to then LATER find out the same thing. It’s so strange to me that they don’t put the salary in the add. Who does that benefit?
TheFrenchMoeLester on
Yeah, Idk why asking or talking about the salary is so sacred and forbidden.
wtfuckfred on
Bare minimum. This is the norm in all the countries I’ve lived in (Portugal, UK, Belgium, Netherlands)
onewheeler2 on
I think there is no facepalm here.
Mogura-De-Gifdu on
Why is it a facepalm?? It’s just basic sense.
Hot-Departure6208 on
But wouldn’t the pay be determined on previous experience, and education?
WrenchTheGoblin on
Most job posting put the salary in them nowadays.
Zenai10 on
Yes of course they should. It is 100% a shady red flag not to list it. Or at minimum a range. Wheres the facepalm?
xilefogayole3 on
why tell the competition and/or customers how much you pay your employees?
Companies should have the right to choose whether to disclose this information or not.
xilefogayole3 on
Companies should have the right to choose whether to disclose this information or not.
You are giving away valuable informatino to your competitors and customers
nameisreallydog on
Well here in Denmark you never list the salary, as the agreed salary is based on various things such as your experience and negotiating skills
bluntarus on
In CA employers are required to include pay range in the post.. and if you’re an employee, required to provide you the info as well. I support this for the sake of fair pay.
The_WolfieOne on
I don’t pay any attention to to job advertisements that don’t state the wages
Mohgreen on
I got into this habit on my latest job search. I did apply to a few that didn’t list salary, but the skills and position were good bets for good money.
What really helped was being up front w pay expectations with recruiters “I want this title, with this pay bracket” that either shut em up about junk positions or brought em back w serious jobs.
MyWorkComputerReddit on
the education industry is notoriously horrible for this
Crazyriskman on
In NY state where it is law, companies are posting ranges like “$100K to $2 Million”
AwfulUsername123 on
If you agree with this, how is it a “facepalm”?
GullibleInsurer on
This hurts more than receiving a knife in the stomach
ElectroAtleticoJr on
If you’re not familiar with the current pay scale in the specific job/industry you’re not qualified and thus don’t apply
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I think this is too risky. Ideally, the employee should find out about the salary only at the moment it is credited to the bank account.
Oh. You guys don’t have salary brackets in jobs offers?
If they don’t list the salary, I don’t apply.
If they don’t put it in the description I’m not going anywhere til I talk to a recruiter or hiring manager over the phone/email first to get the specifics and if I’m out of their price range. Also who am I kidding, I’m not taking anymore non 100% remote jobs so I’m not going anywhere anyway.
If they Don ask. I always discuss range very early. I’m not wasting my time.
The one time they didn’t want to disclose the minimum rate, I told them I wouldn’t go to the interview and said goodbye.
Absolutely correct. If you want people, be honest with them.
Even when they put the salary, it doesn’t include everything that matters for some jobs so these laws have only helped a bit.
Tech, for example, basically meaningless numbers.
I strongly agree, but this isn’t a facepalm
They passed a law here in British Columbia that all job postings must have the wage/salary posted.
How about put the *correct* salary in the description??? I set time aside for an interview that listed $17 an hour only to be told at the end (an hour after the interview started) that it was $15 an hour
$50k-$250k. Lol this happens a lot as well in NY State where there supposed to post it. The ranges need to be narrower where they do post the salary.
How is this facepalm?
Canada, specifically Ontario has made this a law. There are ways around it (putting vague salaries), but it’ll be interesting to see the effect it has on negotiation when you can better see what comparable jobs are paying when it’s time to talk salary during the hire.
Yes! Also, nobody should have to put all that effort in with applying and then getting first phone interview just to then LATER find out the same thing. It’s so strange to me that they don’t put the salary in the add. Who does that benefit?
Yeah, Idk why asking or talking about the salary is so sacred and forbidden.
Bare minimum. This is the norm in all the countries I’ve lived in (Portugal, UK, Belgium, Netherlands)
I think there is no facepalm here.
Why is it a facepalm?? It’s just basic sense.
But wouldn’t the pay be determined on previous experience, and education?
Most job posting put the salary in them nowadays.
Yes of course they should. It is 100% a shady red flag not to list it. Or at minimum a range. Wheres the facepalm?
why tell the competition and/or customers how much you pay your employees?
Companies should have the right to choose whether to disclose this information or not.
Companies should have the right to choose whether to disclose this information or not.
You are giving away valuable informatino to your competitors and customers
Well here in Denmark you never list the salary, as the agreed salary is based on various things such as your experience and negotiating skills
In CA employers are required to include pay range in the post.. and if you’re an employee, required to provide you the info as well. I support this for the sake of fair pay.
I don’t pay any attention to to job advertisements that don’t state the wages
I got into this habit on my latest job search. I did apply to a few that didn’t list salary, but the skills and position were good bets for good money.
What really helped was being up front w pay expectations with recruiters “I want this title, with this pay bracket” that either shut em up about junk positions or brought em back w serious jobs.
the education industry is notoriously horrible for this
In NY state where it is law, companies are posting ranges like “$100K to $2 Million”
If you agree with this, how is it a “facepalm”?
This hurts more than receiving a knife in the stomach
If you’re not familiar with the current pay scale in the specific job/industry you’re not qualified and thus don’t apply
Where i am from it is mandated by law.