I’d be interested to see how many estimated illegal border crossings there are as well to bette correlate this data.
gtadominate on
Reddit isnt going to like this.
Spaghet-3 on
Fwiw, I recall reading that the legal immigration system never ran smoother in modern history than under Clinton. I think there was a period of time under Clinton when people actually got permanent status within a year of applying, and got a green card within 5 years of applying (as prescribed by law).
LoCh0_xX on
Gen Zer here: who was Clinton deporting in the 90’s?
RoastedToast007 on
He was president during covid
XtremelyMeta on
Deporting people is expensive, ergo, the more drownable in a bathtub government is relative the the scope of its mandate, the fewer deportations will get done.
Tracieattimes on
Looks like Trump is going to have to learn a new skill
JackTheDefenestrator on
Didn’t Saint Reagan also grant amnesty to a couple of million immigrants? I wonder if that factors in.
RNKKNR on
Would be nice to see the inflow as it’s the percentage that matters not the actual numbers deported.
lucianw on
This is beautiful data. (1) It’s an interesting insight that I’ve not seen presented before. (2) The labels on each dot help.
I’m deducting one point for the weird dots inside the 0s… 🙂
Truestorymate on
Also have to consider in a modern sense how good lawyers, non profits, and organizations have become at intentionally rat fucking the immigration system to get illegal immigrants, legal status.
tientutoi on
Reddit: it’s because Trump literally starved people to death instead of deporting them.
fatbunny23 on
What does the Data doubts symbol in the corner indicate? I can’t imagine why it should be there
rollingSleepyPanda on
You should post this on r/conservative or r/trump and count how many seconds it takes for you to get banned 🙂
iEnj0y on
Would be nice to have also the incoming as well to compare export vs import.
PinkSlimeIsPeople on
Note that while this data can be useful to debunk right wing weirdos, the number of deportations is NOT a good thing for a President to do. This country was built on immigration, we have to be just as vigilant against angry nativism and scapegoating of immigrants as our ancestors were when they came here.
ceecee_50 on
Didn’t he put them in ICE prison facilities basically?
prayseeker on
Data doesn’t account for the negative shock in immigration during Covid. So absolutely numbers during Trump’s terms are largely deflated
nernst79 on
This feels like incomplete information. Ostensibly speaking, if less people were trying to cross the border in the first place, and/or if they were successfully caught at the border, it stands to reason that deportations wouldn’t happen as much.
Prior to the need to secure the border as part of the creation of DHS, illegal immigrants were viewed as cheap labor – a benefit to the US, and most discussions about illegal immigration were about whether or not we should do more to help them.
People often misleadingly cite ‘border crossings’ or ‘border detainment’ instead of actual net immigration or deportation numbers. Border crossings have little to do with overall illegal immigraiton rates, as lots of the crossings are a result of migrant workers, or people who live along the border (and always have), and cross multiple times a year, but never actually emigrate. In recent years border arrests have increased, partly due to political pressures to catch every single person who illegally crosses, something we’ve never bothered with before, and partly because we have a better system of cameras and drones to catch people more easily. But like the OP data shows, deportation is way down for the simple reason that there’s no one really to deport. Most people who cross illegally aren’t staying long enough to be deported, and the rest of the illegal immigrant population are old people left over from the 90s who no one cares to go after.
Next_Boysenberry1414 on
Wait a minute. Clinton deported 7 Million? That is fucking insane.
agnostic_science on
This is misleading. It is lacking the Biden numbers which is what everyone would compare Trump to:
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Source: [2022 Yearbook of Immigration Statistics](https://ohss.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2024-03/2023_0818_plcy_yearbook_immigration_statistics_fy2022.pdf?itid=lk_inline_enhanced-template)
Tool: [gapminder.org/tools](http://gapminder.org/tools)
I’d be interested to see how many estimated illegal border crossings there are as well to bette correlate this data.
Reddit isnt going to like this.
Fwiw, I recall reading that the legal immigration system never ran smoother in modern history than under Clinton. I think there was a period of time under Clinton when people actually got permanent status within a year of applying, and got a green card within 5 years of applying (as prescribed by law).
Gen Zer here: who was Clinton deporting in the 90’s?
He was president during covid
Deporting people is expensive, ergo, the more drownable in a bathtub government is relative the the scope of its mandate, the fewer deportations will get done.
Looks like Trump is going to have to learn a new skill
Didn’t Saint Reagan also grant amnesty to a couple of million immigrants? I wonder if that factors in.
Would be nice to see the inflow as it’s the percentage that matters not the actual numbers deported.
This is beautiful data. (1) It’s an interesting insight that I’ve not seen presented before. (2) The labels on each dot help.
I’m deducting one point for the weird dots inside the 0s… 🙂
Also have to consider in a modern sense how good lawyers, non profits, and organizations have become at intentionally rat fucking the immigration system to get illegal immigrants, legal status.
Reddit: it’s because Trump literally starved people to death instead of deporting them.
What does the Data doubts symbol in the corner indicate? I can’t imagine why it should be there
You should post this on r/conservative or r/trump and count how many seconds it takes for you to get banned 🙂
Would be nice to have also the incoming as well to compare export vs import.
Note that while this data can be useful to debunk right wing weirdos, the number of deportations is NOT a good thing for a President to do. This country was built on immigration, we have to be just as vigilant against angry nativism and scapegoating of immigrants as our ancestors were when they came here.
Didn’t he put them in ICE prison facilities basically?
Data doesn’t account for the negative shock in immigration during Covid. So absolutely numbers during Trump’s terms are largely deflated
This feels like incomplete information. Ostensibly speaking, if less people were trying to cross the border in the first place, and/or if they were successfully caught at the border, it stands to reason that deportations wouldn’t happen as much.
Which president interned US citizens?
This surprises people, but net illegal immigration largely ended after 9/11, when we first started to actually secure the southern border: [https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/22/what-we-know-about-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/](https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/22/what-we-know-about-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/)
Prior to the need to secure the border as part of the creation of DHS, illegal immigrants were viewed as cheap labor – a benefit to the US, and most discussions about illegal immigration were about whether or not we should do more to help them.
People often misleadingly cite ‘border crossings’ or ‘border detainment’ instead of actual net immigration or deportation numbers. Border crossings have little to do with overall illegal immigraiton rates, as lots of the crossings are a result of migrant workers, or people who live along the border (and always have), and cross multiple times a year, but never actually emigrate. In recent years border arrests have increased, partly due to political pressures to catch every single person who illegally crosses, something we’ve never bothered with before, and partly because we have a better system of cameras and drones to catch people more easily. But like the OP data shows, deportation is way down for the simple reason that there’s no one really to deport. Most people who cross illegally aren’t staying long enough to be deported, and the rest of the illegal immigrant population are old people left over from the 90s who no one cares to go after.
Wait a minute. Clinton deported 7 Million? That is fucking insane.
This is misleading. It is lacking the Biden numbers which is what everyone would compare Trump to:
> The Biden Administration Is on Pace to Match Trump Deportation Numbers—Focusing on the Border, Not the U.S. Interior – [https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-deportation-record](https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-deportation-record)
So the Biden bubble would likely be at or just below the Trump bubble.