it just feels so anachronistic. but then again, ottoman courts were still keeping sex slaves in WW1.

    by Orcbenis

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    1. Daskalogiannis, a shipbuilder-turned-rebel, led a revolt In the spring of 1770 for Crete. The turks eventually kept the rebels in check as they pillaged the province, razed numerous local villages, slaughtered the cattles of the villagers, captured numerous people, and sold them into Heraklion’s slave market. Those captured included Daskalogiannis’ uncle who was a local priest.

       On 18 March 1771 the Turks gave the rebels an ultimatum in which one of the points promised fair legal proceedings for the revolt leaders if they were to surrender. it is reported that his brother Nikolós Sgouromállis, who was taken prisoner earlier, was forced to write him a letter convincing him the goodwill of the turks. Daskalogiannis surrendered himself to the Turks after realizing the battle was lost in the hope that it would lighten punishment for him and his compatriots.

       Daskalogiannis was taken to Heraklion together with his most trusted men, but rather than keeping the promise of the ultimatum the pasha of the town had in place a cruel punishment. On 17 June 1771 Daskalogiannis was, in the full daylight of publicity, tortured, skinned alive and then beaten to death, an ordeal that he endured in complete silence. His brother was forced to watch the torture which drove him insane.

       This was done in 1771. For a comparison, the industrial revolution started in Britain in 1760. And John Locke wrote his most important works in 1689.

      Source : Theocharēs Eustratiou Detorakēs, History of Crete.

    2. In 1803 Edward Despard and six co-conspirators in the Despard Plot were sentenced to be hanged, drawn, and quartered. Before they were hanged and beheaded at Horsemonger Lane Gaol, London, they were first placed on sledges attached to horses, and ritually pulled in circuits around the gaol yards. Their execution was attended by an audience of about 20,000.

    3. TheHistoryMaster2520 on

      Sex slaves are still being traded today, and have you seen the shit Mexican cartels do?

      Edit: Maybe cartels aren’t government (even though many are either composed of former police or have links with government officials), but there are countries in the world who still use medieval-esque torture techniques on dissidents and prisoners, Equatorial Guinea, Uzbekistan, and Iraq under Saddam Hussein, to name a few

    4. Stunning_Discount633 on

      Crazy how the governments of the world are still committing atrocities like this today.

    5. AlmondAnFriends on

      Gruesome and barbaric death penalty practices were common globally in even the 19th century, normally I’m not one for a whataboutism argument but this entire meme seems to be pretending the Ottomans are some bizarre outliers in this context which they absolutely aren’t. This list gets even more disgustingly outrageous when you include semi official activity that wasn’t technically uniformly endorsed but was widely practiced without real punishment. In which case basically every colonial empire was committing atrocities and executions that would make you sick to your core.

      Edit: perhaps unsurprisingly the person who made this meme has their account full of blatantly islamaphobic commentary including some rather odd ones. This meme is basically a propagandist tool for anti Islam which is a weird choice, 1) because the Ottoman Empire doing something awful obviously doesnt just reflect Muslims everywhere but also 2) why the fuck would you choose the 18th century as your time period to try and make this sort of point. Obviously any attempt to paint Muslims as some sort of warmongers compared to other “peaceful” faiths is going to be cherry-picked to shit anyway but seems like one of the worse sort of options to choose because it’s so easily compared to other notably just as bad or worse atrocities

      Edit Edit: there is something incredibly amusing in the stupidity of criticising a religion for being violent and then participating in a discussion of your favourite Christian victory not only because of the double standards but I can’t think of a thing Christs teachings would find more egregious then participating in a discussion about which historical murder-fest in his name you enjoyed the most

    6. Seems downright orientalist glazing. You know what anachronistic? France displayed public beheading in the same year the premiere of Star Wars : A New Hope.

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