As a somewhat Washington fan they really missed the mark on the ReBrand definitely should’ve been RedWolves than the Commanders
jesusdrownsbabies on
My friend back in the day had an Indians hat where the logo had a gold tooth.
yumyumapollo on
Left column: approval from Native Americans
Right column: disapproval from Native Americans
Glad we could clear this up.
Ken_alxia on
The name “Washington redskins” is insane. Imagine St. Louis being “St. Louis Yellowskins” or some shit like that. However they could’ve came up with a better name than Washington commanders 🙄 they didn’t even try lol
Oh, but folk will get mad when I’m like “Check out my fantasy football team, the Washington Palefaces”
thebarryconvex on
Think it might be less the logo, which isn’t super cool on its own, and more the team name being an actual fuckin’ racial slur lol. Jesus internet logic is so fucking mind numbing.
Also it isn’t so much “allowed” as it was “those involved somehow got enough white people to give a shit that it got changed.” Honestly, the WAS football team and that old CLE logo were so beyond the pale its staggering.
Jlv059 on
Never noticed how bad the indians logo was thats like the native american version of those old racist cartoons of blacks with really big lips.
God_Chiseled_Calves on
My favorite comparison was from bill burr who basically said imagine if the Germans made a team called “the Jews” and did an “oy vey” chant whenever they got a first down. Lol
Reminds me of the Simpsons. Instead of doing something with Apu and honoring him and Indian-Americas, they just wrote him out, buried it and never spoke of him again. Hardly a good reaction.
Add1ctedToGames on
Saying “booo I hate the chiefs” doesn’t sound as bad as “booo I hate the indians”
embracingmountains on
My family from Cleveland walk their Indigenous asses around in Indians gear with that face on it and that shit always has me dying. Like cuz, you really wearing that baseball cap rn while we eat auntie’s frybread I can’t 😂
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Meanwhile Syracuse is over here going, No guys its not “orange men,” but a Orangeman! Ya know, like an orange but also a man? Anthropomorphized fruit is totally what we meant the whole time!
Back in high school I had an Indians hat where the wahoo had a gold tooth, man I wish I would’ve kept up with that one!
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How old is this repost?
AngeluvDeath on
The Seminoles actually want FSU to keep doing what they’re doing. They have a different perspective than other tribes, however, as they never surrendered. I don’t know about the Blackhawks and how they feel about that. Even though the logo isn’t directly tied to the group, tribes in the NW have a positive relationship with the Seahawks and they do employ some patterns and symbols that are distinct to them.
Washington should have addressed it early on. Would have been good to be proactive, but tribes had been on them for decades before they made that change. Not sure about Cleveland, but it was probably similar. Fighting tooth and nail to hold onto that shit was a really bad look for those organizations.
shaunrundmc on
Two of those that are allowed literally worked with and had the blessings of native tribes to use the names and images
SaulGibson on
University of Illinois also stopped using Chief Illiniwek.
Joshstradaymus on
I’m a Washington Commanders fan and have been a fan of the franchise my entire life. That name needed to go, the logo and the name both should be gone. The logo is not *as* offensive but they go hand in hand. That dude running that Redskins page is the biggest fucking Washington clown on the internet. He clearly doesn’t have a grasp on the fact that the name is never coming back and sponsors won’t support it even if it did. The team would stop existing.
SweatpantsMonklife on
I always thought the Cleveland Indian had on a durag
jred1860 on
As a Braves fan…it’s conflicting.
But they should change it.
Toph-Builds-the-fire on
Also. “Allowed”? those are just teams being fucking stubborn. None of those aside from maybe, MAYBE the Seminoles, but I doubt it, are in any way appreciated by the folks they claim to represent. Just drop the names and find a cool animal. Kansas City horny toads IDGAF. No animal team name is wrong.
ladytypeperson on
tbf FSU pays royalties to the Seminole Nation of FL for the logo; the agreement includes a stipulation that Natio. reps teach a business class every year, which is awesome because a ton of football players learn how to profit off the university that’s raking in dough off their talent. The only party unhappy about this arrangement is the Seminole Nation of OK, which feels they ought to have a piece of the pie.
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Edmonton Eskimos
UseDaSchwartz on
Florida State has some kind of partnership with the tribe. So there shouldn’t be any issues.
DafuqJusHapin on
I guess as long as it says chief, they’re good.
Dry-Tension-6650 on
It’s funny because the Redskin’s logo seems the most dignified. But they should change them all.
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As a somewhat Washington fan they really missed the mark on the ReBrand definitely should’ve been RedWolves than the Commanders
My friend back in the day had an Indians hat where the logo had a gold tooth.
Left column: approval from Native Americans
Right column: disapproval from Native Americans
Glad we could clear this up.
The name “Washington redskins” is insane. Imagine St. Louis being “St. Louis Yellowskins” or some shit like that. However they could’ve came up with a better name than Washington commanders 🙄 they didn’t even try lol
[Bomani Jones, the legend.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/s/n5jqqyGcin)
Oh, but folk will get mad when I’m like “Check out my fantasy football team, the Washington Palefaces”
Think it might be less the logo, which isn’t super cool on its own, and more the team name being an actual fuckin’ racial slur lol. Jesus internet logic is so fucking mind numbing.
Also it isn’t so much “allowed” as it was “those involved somehow got enough white people to give a shit that it got changed.” Honestly, the WAS football team and that old CLE logo were so beyond the pale its staggering.
Never noticed how bad the indians logo was thats like the native american version of those old racist cartoons of blacks with really big lips.
My favorite comparison was from bill burr who basically said imagine if the Germans made a team called “the Jews” and did an “oy vey” chant whenever they got a first down. Lol
[The KC Chiefs actually stepped up to the plate and reached out to their local tribes for education and collaboration.](https://www.chiefs.com/americanindianheritage/#:~:text=While%20the%20origin%20of%20the,in%20a%20racially%20insensitive%20fashion.)
[The Spokane Indians did the same thing. if you have the name and the audience, just double down and educate people about the culture instead of erasing it. ](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/sports/baseball/indians-team-names-mascots.html)
Reminds me of the Simpsons. Instead of doing something with Apu and honoring him and Indian-Americas, they just wrote him out, buried it and never spoke of him again. Hardly a good reaction.
Saying “booo I hate the chiefs” doesn’t sound as bad as “booo I hate the indians”
My family from Cleveland walk their Indigenous asses around in Indians gear with that face on it and that shit always has me dying. Like cuz, you really wearing that baseball cap rn while we eat auntie’s frybread I can’t 😂
Meanwhile Syracuse is over here going, No guys its not “orange men,” but a Orangeman! Ya know, like an orange but also a man? Anthropomorphized fruit is totally what we meant the whole time!
https://images.app.goo.gl/uuTfqx7aeqxL3bog7
Back in high school I had an Indians hat where the wahoo had a gold tooth, man I wish I would’ve kept up with that one!
How old is this repost?
The Seminoles actually want FSU to keep doing what they’re doing. They have a different perspective than other tribes, however, as they never surrendered. I don’t know about the Blackhawks and how they feel about that. Even though the logo isn’t directly tied to the group, tribes in the NW have a positive relationship with the Seahawks and they do employ some patterns and symbols that are distinct to them.
Washington should have addressed it early on. Would have been good to be proactive, but tribes had been on them for decades before they made that change. Not sure about Cleveland, but it was probably similar. Fighting tooth and nail to hold onto that shit was a really bad look for those organizations.
Two of those that are allowed literally worked with and had the blessings of native tribes to use the names and images
University of Illinois also stopped using Chief Illiniwek.
I’m a Washington Commanders fan and have been a fan of the franchise my entire life. That name needed to go, the logo and the name both should be gone. The logo is not *as* offensive but they go hand in hand. That dude running that Redskins page is the biggest fucking Washington clown on the internet. He clearly doesn’t have a grasp on the fact that the name is never coming back and sponsors won’t support it even if it did. The team would stop existing.
I always thought the Cleveland Indian had on a durag
As a Braves fan…it’s conflicting.
But they should change it.
Also. “Allowed”? those are just teams being fucking stubborn. None of those aside from maybe, MAYBE the Seminoles, but I doubt it, are in any way appreciated by the folks they claim to represent. Just drop the names and find a cool animal. Kansas City horny toads IDGAF. No animal team name is wrong.
tbf FSU pays royalties to the Seminole Nation of FL for the logo; the agreement includes a stipulation that Natio. reps teach a business class every year, which is awesome because a ton of football players learn how to profit off the university that’s raking in dough off their talent. The only party unhappy about this arrangement is the Seminole Nation of OK, which feels they ought to have a piece of the pie.
Edmonton Eskimos
Florida State has some kind of partnership with the tribe. So there shouldn’t be any issues.
I guess as long as it says chief, they’re good.
It’s funny because the Redskin’s logo seems the most dignified. But they should change them all.
https://preview.redd.it/5em8wd4twttd1.png?width=385&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=11da0959883e563039949c32acfbdd2bbe181e05