This is my neighbor (the world), he is a pain in my asshole.
I say I invent the radio, he says he invent the radio
I say I invent the plane, he says he invent the plane
I say I invent brigadeiro, he doesn’t have one. Great success!
gar1848 on
If it is any consolation, people still think an American rather than an Italian invented the telephone
Bryguy3k on
At least in the case of radio the true inventor of radio is Nikola Tesla – having filed in 1897. Marconi’s application was rejected for being too similar to Tesla’s. Eventually Marconi was able to file an amended application which was granted based on it being a specific implementation that offered numerous improvements upon Tesla’s.
Roberto Landell’s patent while granted was never demonstrated as functional and modern creations based on what was described show that while technically functional it produces essentially incomprehensible output.
There is no proof that Roberto Landell ever produced a working device.
Edit: I looked it up and I have no idea how they can claim the airplane – Alberto Santos-Dumont‘s first flight is 3 years after the wright brothers first flight and lacked any lateral control whatsoever. Contrast that to the wright flyer being capable of a 40 minute fully navigated flight a year before Alberto’s first flight.
hyato64 on
Yo, but for real though. There is a insane amount of technicality and crazy history around the airplane thing.
I’m Brazilian and I remember a teacher teaching me that the WB claimed that they flow before SD but it didn’t had any witness (while using catapult to start floating), while SD had it recorded while using none tools to start the acceleration. So that is why we don’t “believe” on WB… But being completely honest, I believe that nobody gives a damn about who created first in Brazil (outside the internet of course), never saw this discussion in my life either in academics or in other places… Anyway it is a cool history curiosity
From my understanding, the Brazilian claim literally is reliant on if you consider them using a rail system to get off the ground to invalidate the Wright brothers’ flight.
DidntFindABetterName on
Brazilians when someone says 7-1
Redentropy_42 on
Deus me livre, as colónias estão a se revoltar
Psychological_Gain20 on
Wright Brothers did invent it, it’s just Brazilian cope.
Any_Top_4773 on
Americans didn’t invent the plane
PloddingAboot on
Dayton Ohio will begin an international feud on its own with Brazil, it already fights with North Carolina over first in flight.
WhimsyDiamsy on
Because pretty much everything that Brazilians claim was invented by a Brazilian wasn’t
Tuxyl on
Wrong. The thing about inventions is that usually, you HAVE TO SUCCEED.
Yes, you can say that Santos-Dumont was a pioneer in the aeroplane. But he did not succeed in creating a controllable heavier than air, aircraft. In fact, he crashed.
It was the wright brothers who actually succeeded. Thus, they are the most well known….you know, for actually creating a workable aeroplane.
Fidel__Casserole on
You really have to be a special kind of stupid to believe Brazil invented the plane
TheDeadQueenVictoria on
Brazilians when someone tells them the English invented their beloved football
Paul490490 on
I think there’s guy in nearly every country who invented radio. Slovakia 🇸🇰 also has one, his name was Jozef MurgaÅ¡. Who invented radio in your country?
MigratingPenguin on
Every country has their own inventor of radio.
Knappologen on
The only thing of worth Brazil invented was a specific method of waxing.
GeneralJones420-2 on
Lots of Brazilian cope here lol. The first flight of the Wright brothers is irrelevant: they made dozens of flights before Dumont first attached an engine to a glider and got his unsteerable kite in the air for a few seconds. By that time, the Wright brothers had already completed long distance flights of over 40 kilometers as well as flights with no catapult assistance. Dumont literally did not achieve anything that the Wrights had not achieved already.
yourmomsthr0waway69 on
Lots of coping going on in this thread
processocivil42 on
Honestly, don’t care if you think that it was a Brazilian or Americans who first invented airplanes. What is unacceptable, though, it’s the blatant xenophobic comments in this thread.
milic_srb on
especially funny since a Serbian invented the radio
mjtt97 on
Guys, do you know that something can be invented/created/discovered by more than one person in different place or time without it being a copy or it being less important?
Sometimes someone invented first but the second guy that could make it popular/useful.
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14 Bis flew under its own power.
This is my neighbor (the world), he is a pain in my asshole.
I say I invent the radio, he says he invent the radio
I say I invent the plane, he says he invent the plane
I say I invent brigadeiro, he doesn’t have one. Great success!
If it is any consolation, people still think an American rather than an Italian invented the telephone
At least in the case of radio the true inventor of radio is Nikola Tesla – having filed in 1897. Marconi’s application was rejected for being too similar to Tesla’s. Eventually Marconi was able to file an amended application which was granted based on it being a specific implementation that offered numerous improvements upon Tesla’s.
Roberto Landell’s patent while granted was never demonstrated as functional and modern creations based on what was described show that while technically functional it produces essentially incomprehensible output.
There is no proof that Roberto Landell ever produced a working device.
Edit: I looked it up and I have no idea how they can claim the airplane – Alberto Santos-Dumont‘s first flight is 3 years after the wright brothers first flight and lacked any lateral control whatsoever. Contrast that to the wright flyer being capable of a 40 minute fully navigated flight a year before Alberto’s first flight.
Yo, but for real though. There is a insane amount of technicality and crazy history around the airplane thing.
I’m Brazilian and I remember a teacher teaching me that the WB claimed that they flow before SD but it didn’t had any witness (while using catapult to start floating), while SD had it recorded while using none tools to start the acceleration. So that is why we don’t “believe” on WB… But being completely honest, I believe that nobody gives a damn about who created first in Brazil (outside the internet of course), never saw this discussion in my life either in academics or in other places… Anyway it is a cool history curiosity
More sources: https://aviationoiloutlet.com/blog/who-really-invented-airplane/?srsltid=AfmBOopk57CvaqNEPMIYyfx5SSKiS-pEYrvp30cM4eiy4a5lSXqD5yK5
From my understanding, the Brazilian claim literally is reliant on if you consider them using a rail system to get off the ground to invalidate the Wright brothers’ flight.
Brazilians when someone says 7-1
Deus me livre, as colónias estão a se revoltar
Wright Brothers did invent it, it’s just Brazilian cope.
Americans didn’t invent the plane
Dayton Ohio will begin an international feud on its own with Brazil, it already fights with North Carolina over first in flight.
Because pretty much everything that Brazilians claim was invented by a Brazilian wasn’t
Wrong. The thing about inventions is that usually, you HAVE TO SUCCEED.
Yes, you can say that Santos-Dumont was a pioneer in the aeroplane. But he did not succeed in creating a controllable heavier than air, aircraft. In fact, he crashed.
It was the wright brothers who actually succeeded. Thus, they are the most well known….you know, for actually creating a workable aeroplane.
You really have to be a special kind of stupid to believe Brazil invented the plane
Brazilians when someone tells them the English invented their beloved football
I think there’s guy in nearly every country who invented radio. Slovakia 🇸🇰 also has one, his name was Jozef MurgaÅ¡. Who invented radio in your country?
Every country has their own inventor of radio.
The only thing of worth Brazil invented was a specific method of waxing.
Lots of Brazilian cope here lol. The first flight of the Wright brothers is irrelevant: they made dozens of flights before Dumont first attached an engine to a glider and got his unsteerable kite in the air for a few seconds. By that time, the Wright brothers had already completed long distance flights of over 40 kilometers as well as flights with no catapult assistance. Dumont literally did not achieve anything that the Wrights had not achieved already.
Lots of coping going on in this thread
Honestly, don’t care if you think that it was a Brazilian or Americans who first invented airplanes. What is unacceptable, though, it’s the blatant xenophobic comments in this thread.
especially funny since a Serbian invented the radio
Guys, do you know that something can be invented/created/discovered by more than one person in different place or time without it being a copy or it being less important?
Sometimes someone invented first but the second guy that could make it popular/useful.