I think it depends, my grandma used to tell me that when the Russians came, they shared some food rations with them, she was from a small village in Polish Silesia
skeleton949 on
Especially when the people happened to be German. And that’s not mentioning the Soviet backed partisans that operated in German occupied territory during the war.
dendenwink on
“(unzipping pants)Greetings, comrade devochka, ve are here to wiberate you…please do not resist…”
EmotionalyCripledOwl on
I was 3 or 4 when my great grandmother was telling me how she had to hide in coal or potatoes from soviets
60 years later and she was still shaking
No-Access-1761 on
Tbf the western allies did the same things as the Soviet’s did. If you have millions of men who’ve been through that much trauma the portion of them (who in terms of numbers is massive because again, millions of people) who are potential rapists, psychopaths and just horrible ppl in general will do horrible things when opportunity arises.
Not mentioning trauma as an excuse of course but simply to say it probably makes some people more likely to commit certain type of horrible things than they would’ve otherwise been.
With that being said, official accounts do suggest the soviets were at least to some degree worse, probably due to less strict oversight and a (unofficially at least) higher tolerance for such things among at least some officers
Trowj on
I wouldn’t say “liberated.” I would say “Under new Management.”
Strange-Mouse-8710 on
Hate to break it to you, but rape was also done by Allied soldiers in the west. Maybe not in the amount as the red army did, but it did happen.
You can downvote me as much as you want, its an historical fact.
TheEroteme on
Similarly you could do one where it’s like “when the Soviets come to ‘liberate’ you from capitalism”
And then “When the Nazis come to ‘liberate’ you from the Soviets.”
You gotta feel for the Ukrainians of the time, honestly it makes Putin look like Mother Theresa.
FakeElectionMaker on
It was an army of rapists
Wild_Ad969 on
Not in Asia though, except maybe in Philipines. What the Dutch did in Indonesia was so brutal even the American need to intervene.
chaos_magician_ on
Post ww2 Hungary my grandfather was tortured by being hung from a tank. Later on he escaped Hungary under gun fire and returned more than once to get more people out. The way it was deceived to me wasn’t communism but fascism.
rockemonandoff on
We in the west are often showed how terrible the soviets were and with little to no context. Yes they were certainly guilty of crimes against humanity, but guess what? So was pretty much everyone else involved. American “liberation” in Italy didn’t look too pretty either. World war 2 was an insane time period- genocide was all but normalized.
Imagine you’re a Soviet soldier who not only lost his family, but his whole village, his whole world. Why? Because some crackpots brainwashed an entire generation into thinking they were ethnically superior. It’s truly hard to put into words the fury the USSR felt after so much loss and sacrifice.
AGAIN, I have to say I’m not trying to whitewash history, but there’s a lot of context missing here. I know this is a meme, but something about this really rubs me the wrong way.
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I think it depends, my grandma used to tell me that when the Russians came, they shared some food rations with them, she was from a small village in Polish Silesia
Especially when the people happened to be German. And that’s not mentioning the Soviet backed partisans that operated in German occupied territory during the war.
“(unzipping pants)Greetings, comrade devochka, ve are here to wiberate you…please do not resist…”
I was 3 or 4 when my great grandmother was telling me how she had to hide in coal or potatoes from soviets
60 years later and she was still shaking
Tbf the western allies did the same things as the Soviet’s did. If you have millions of men who’ve been through that much trauma the portion of them (who in terms of numbers is massive because again, millions of people) who are potential rapists, psychopaths and just horrible ppl in general will do horrible things when opportunity arises.
Not mentioning trauma as an excuse of course but simply to say it probably makes some people more likely to commit certain type of horrible things than they would’ve otherwise been.
With that being said, official accounts do suggest the soviets were at least to some degree worse, probably due to less strict oversight and a (unofficially at least) higher tolerance for such things among at least some officers
I wouldn’t say “liberated.” I would say “Under new Management.”
Hate to break it to you, but rape was also done by Allied soldiers in the west. Maybe not in the amount as the red army did, but it did happen.
You can downvote me as much as you want, its an historical fact.
Similarly you could do one where it’s like “when the Soviets come to ‘liberate’ you from capitalism”
And then “When the Nazis come to ‘liberate’ you from the Soviets.”
You gotta feel for the Ukrainians of the time, honestly it makes Putin look like Mother Theresa.
It was an army of rapists
Not in Asia though, except maybe in Philipines. What the Dutch did in Indonesia was so brutal even the American need to intervene.
Post ww2 Hungary my grandfather was tortured by being hung from a tank. Later on he escaped Hungary under gun fire and returned more than once to get more people out. The way it was deceived to me wasn’t communism but fascism.
We in the west are often showed how terrible the soviets were and with little to no context. Yes they were certainly guilty of crimes against humanity, but guess what? So was pretty much everyone else involved. American “liberation” in Italy didn’t look too pretty either. World war 2 was an insane time period- genocide was all but normalized.
Imagine you’re a Soviet soldier who not only lost his family, but his whole village, his whole world. Why? Because some crackpots brainwashed an entire generation into thinking they were ethnically superior. It’s truly hard to put into words the fury the USSR felt after so much loss and sacrifice.
AGAIN, I have to say I’m not trying to whitewash history, but there’s a lot of context missing here. I know this is a meme, but something about this really rubs me the wrong way.
[a list of ww2 atrocities in case you’ve lived under a rock your whole life](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_World_War_II)
If you were gay, you were better off with the reds.
Oh good. More one-sided and outdated anti-Soviet propaganda. For a second I thought I was in r/HistoryMemes, not r/ColdWarriors