Then what happened? Why do we see the Afghanistan we do today?
Better_Island_4119 on
This is depressing as fuck.
Zealousideal-Ice123 on
Religion. Fucking Religion.
JourneyThiefer on
The change from then until to today is absolutely insane…
coffeejj on
This kind of change occurs when ignorant religious zealots reach power.
And it matters not the religion.
Organized religion is toxic
Dull_Counter7624 on
This could happen to us in the US if we let the Christian taliban take over
Carl-99999 on
Back when the British mandated things
Reddit_Deluge on
Before the Republicans took over
PDXnederlander on
Now it’s back to medieval times.
brahian_lnz on
Thanks América
Gabi_Benan on
Why the USA needs to stop the White Christian Nationalists aka: Nat_C’s this November
ohiotechie on
Religious zealots literally dragged them back into the dark ages. Same for Iran and Iraq for that matter.
Sunshine649 on
Oh I love when this one gets posted. Excited to see all the “informed” opinions on why everything is America’s fault.
Jazzkidscoins on
Unfortunately the story of Afghanistan is one of meddling, as the Persian (ottoman?) empire collapsed, the British stuck their nose in, when the British empire collapsed the Soviets stuck their nose in (along with the US), when the Soviet Empire collapsed, Pakistan stuck its nose in, then the US got involved
Basically, As the Persian empire collapsed in the early to mid 1800s the British fucked around in Afghanistan, playing all the little factions against each other until a little after WWI, when Afghanistan was finally declared a sovereign, independent State (country). After a short civil war in the 1920s a monarch came into power and ruled until 1973. He started a series of reforms and modernizations, doing away with many of the religious rules, creating free schools for male and female children, building infrastructure, creating and encouraging cotton farms and textile manufacturing. Afghanistan stayed natural during WWII and stayed, for the most part, out of the early Cold War. While still a poor country, it’s obvious these reforms worked well, increasing the quality of life for most afghans.
This time it was the Soviets who fucked things up. They supported the more radical elements in country, trying to force the country into to the soviets sphere of influence. Their plan backfired and led the a bloody coup in 1973 while the monarch was out of the country. They set up a Marxist form of government. In the next couple of years there was a series of increasingly religious radical governments out in place before the soviets decided to just invade in 1979 and set up their own government.
This led to well over 10 years of civil war, with the US supporting the afghan insurgents in their fight against the soviets. The Soviet-afghan war ended in 1992 with the Soviet withdrawn (fun fact, this war probably directly led to the fall of the Soviet Union). After that there was an increasingly violent series of civil wars where the various independent “freedom fighter” groups, using the weapons and money supplied by the U.S., vied for power. They essentially destroyed the country, literally and figuratively, weakening the country as a whole until the Taliban, supported by Pakistan, took control of most of the country.
In 2001 the US stepped in and we all know what happened after that
Afghanistan has always been stuck at the edges of major empires, It wasn’t even considered a “country” until the 18th century. It’s always been used as a buffer between all these various empires. The population is made up of a mix of various ethnic groups, the largest one making up only 18% of the total population. It’s been a major player in almost every world religion except Christianity. It just has never had a chance to develop on its own
Hello-their on
The question should be in Afghanistan an inferior country, or a cautionary tale.
BolOfSpaghettios on
So one thing that I learned from the locals when I was there, deployed that is. Kabul is not really representative of Afghanistan. It is the capital, but everything outside it is in its own ecosystem. Different dialects, different religious practices (although Islam is prominent). This is one of the reasons why all the major empires failed. They’ve thought by conquering Kabul, they’ll have all of Afghanistan. Even the communist party failed in realizing this, although they tried uniting people under a single banner.
LordaeronReconquista on
Democracy was needed
/s
Nosemanejar on
Then came the U.S. funding the extremist peasants by teaching them how to be real terrorists. Don’t forget Rambo and the propaganda he wanted to show.
![gif](giphy|Yw6q7onmI8Xsps85eX)
Rock-Docter on
Cairo University is the same. Compare class graduation photos from the 1970s to now
Bulldogs3144 on
Is no one seeing the correlation to what we’re seeing in the US? This is what we have now and it will revert back to what Afghanistan is now if we elect Trump.
ethervillage on
More proof – religious fundamentalism of any kind fucks up society. Period
E4ttheR1ch99 on
Religion and freedom don’t mix.
Ok_Ask9516 on
The majority of Afghanistan never lived like this.
Its definitely misleading
illHaveTwoNumbers9s on
Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan were all of this kind of countries. Don’t know who and why they fucked these countries up.
DocHenry66 on
Right before religion took over
DenseVegetable2581 on
Religion took over… so it all makes sense now. Evangelical Christians are just jealous of the power they radical Muslims have in these countries since the 70s and 80s.
That’s why they’re trying so hard in the US
JulienQuadzo on
No, this is what a small part of Kabul looked like. People in the countryside were still isolated and backwards.
aulabra on
Religion is a cancer.
Super-Saiyajin-Retro on
They were actually Human once.
Fun_Relationship7147 on
Before cancer
wakomorny on
I was staring at the fingers looking for any sign it was generated by ai the whole time
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Then what happened? Why do we see the Afghanistan we do today?
This is depressing as fuck.
Religion. Fucking Religion.
The change from then until to today is absolutely insane…
This kind of change occurs when ignorant religious zealots reach power.
And it matters not the religion.
Organized religion is toxic
This could happen to us in the US if we let the Christian taliban take over
Back when the British mandated things
Before the Republicans took over
Now it’s back to medieval times.
Thanks América
Why the USA needs to stop the White Christian Nationalists aka: Nat_C’s this November
Religious zealots literally dragged them back into the dark ages. Same for Iran and Iraq for that matter.
Oh I love when this one gets posted. Excited to see all the “informed” opinions on why everything is America’s fault.
Unfortunately the story of Afghanistan is one of meddling, as the Persian (ottoman?) empire collapsed, the British stuck their nose in, when the British empire collapsed the Soviets stuck their nose in (along with the US), when the Soviet Empire collapsed, Pakistan stuck its nose in, then the US got involved
Basically, As the Persian empire collapsed in the early to mid 1800s the British fucked around in Afghanistan, playing all the little factions against each other until a little after WWI, when Afghanistan was finally declared a sovereign, independent State (country). After a short civil war in the 1920s a monarch came into power and ruled until 1973. He started a series of reforms and modernizations, doing away with many of the religious rules, creating free schools for male and female children, building infrastructure, creating and encouraging cotton farms and textile manufacturing. Afghanistan stayed natural during WWII and stayed, for the most part, out of the early Cold War. While still a poor country, it’s obvious these reforms worked well, increasing the quality of life for most afghans.
This time it was the Soviets who fucked things up. They supported the more radical elements in country, trying to force the country into to the soviets sphere of influence. Their plan backfired and led the a bloody coup in 1973 while the monarch was out of the country. They set up a Marxist form of government. In the next couple of years there was a series of increasingly religious radical governments out in place before the soviets decided to just invade in 1979 and set up their own government.
This led to well over 10 years of civil war, with the US supporting the afghan insurgents in their fight against the soviets. The Soviet-afghan war ended in 1992 with the Soviet withdrawn (fun fact, this war probably directly led to the fall of the Soviet Union). After that there was an increasingly violent series of civil wars where the various independent “freedom fighter” groups, using the weapons and money supplied by the U.S., vied for power. They essentially destroyed the country, literally and figuratively, weakening the country as a whole until the Taliban, supported by Pakistan, took control of most of the country.
In 2001 the US stepped in and we all know what happened after that
Afghanistan has always been stuck at the edges of major empires, It wasn’t even considered a “country” until the 18th century. It’s always been used as a buffer between all these various empires. The population is made up of a mix of various ethnic groups, the largest one making up only 18% of the total population. It’s been a major player in almost every world religion except Christianity. It just has never had a chance to develop on its own
The question should be in Afghanistan an inferior country, or a cautionary tale.
So one thing that I learned from the locals when I was there, deployed that is. Kabul is not really representative of Afghanistan. It is the capital, but everything outside it is in its own ecosystem. Different dialects, different religious practices (although Islam is prominent). This is one of the reasons why all the major empires failed. They’ve thought by conquering Kabul, they’ll have all of Afghanistan. Even the communist party failed in realizing this, although they tried uniting people under a single banner.
Democracy was needed
/s
Then came the U.S. funding the extremist peasants by teaching them how to be real terrorists. Don’t forget Rambo and the propaganda he wanted to show.
![gif](giphy|Yw6q7onmI8Xsps85eX)
Cairo University is the same. Compare class graduation photos from the 1970s to now
Is no one seeing the correlation to what we’re seeing in the US? This is what we have now and it will revert back to what Afghanistan is now if we elect Trump.
More proof – religious fundamentalism of any kind fucks up society. Period
Religion and freedom don’t mix.
The majority of Afghanistan never lived like this.
Its definitely misleading
Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan were all of this kind of countries. Don’t know who and why they fucked these countries up.
Right before religion took over
Religion took over… so it all makes sense now. Evangelical Christians are just jealous of the power they radical Muslims have in these countries since the 70s and 80s.
That’s why they’re trying so hard in the US
No, this is what a small part of Kabul looked like. People in the countryside were still isolated and backwards.
Religion is a cancer.
They were actually Human once.
Before cancer
I was staring at the fingers looking for any sign it was generated by ai the whole time
What do they prefer, then or now?
God dammit, they were on their way.
https://preview.redd.it/fnfpclja7ord1.jpeg?width=202&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2aff236fc5b2bd89a23bc4ecbacda1eed3471e7f
This DMF is responsible!
Then America
Fighting each other yes
Religion shouldn’t be part of government or politics anywhere. The world would be a better place.
A child bride won the right to divorce – now the Taliban say it doesn’t count
[https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx24evnk5d2o](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx24evnk5d2o)
could have been a nice tourist destination. imagine that different trajectory.
Watch closely USA what happens when religious extremism gets a hold of a country.
Other nations and states like rushia were jealousy of them for being intelligent and knowing how to use the rich earth they had
Shit got fixed by them death cult 💀
Iran went backwards in time
Religion is a curse
Imagine if those dumbasses didn’t screw it up for themselves
man is his own evil!!👹
Project 2025 is literally the first step in taking the USA from what Afganistan was in the 60s to what it is today, just with an evangelical twist.
Scary witnessing history attempt to repeat itself.
It’s crazy how volatile those countries are.
While there are many compounding factors that have led to where we are today with Iran and Afghanistan.
However I do wonder if islam’s historical political and religious leader dualism makes separation of church and state difficult to embrace?