I believe codified modern calculus is a better way to look at it. From my admittedly limited knowledge I am under the impression that it was a practical understanding ex. Construction worker vs academic understanding before their articulation.
xesaie on
Oddly things can be invented more than once.
For instance, although one place didn’t really use it, the wheel was invented in 2 distinct places of the world (at least), and there are at least 3 independent ‘inventions’ of writing (Fertile Crescent/Cuneiform, China/Oracle Bone writing, and Mesoamerican scripts – the last have the least clear provenance).
wombles_wombat on
You forgot about the Chinese. Anyway, best described by Wikipedia … “Many elements of calculus appeared in ancient Greece, then in China and the Middle East, and still later again in medieval Europe and in India. Infinitesimal calculus was developed in the late 17th century by Isaac Newton and Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz independently of each other. An argument over priority led to the Leibniz–Newton calculus controversy which continued until the death of Leibniz in 1716.”
AwfulUsername123 on
[citation needed]
FaxMachineInTheWild on
I made a triangle out of clay when I was 7, I didn’t independently invent trigonometry.
MikolashOfAngren on
Newton’s notation sucks. Leibniz forever!
DoodooFardington on
There is a difference in kinda-winging it and actually having a discipline around it.
thewazthegaz on
Early use of some elements of calculus and the infinitesimal calculus developed by Newton and Leibniz are very, very different things.
Cefalopodul on
Those two people invented modern calculus. There is a massive difference. What the Egyptians and Indians used are precursors to modern calculus.
Stalinerino on
Our modern day notion of calculus is effectivly the study of limits and infinitesimals, notions introduced by Newton and Liebniz. Surely some results had been explored before throughout the world, but the modern study of calculus started with Newton and Liebniz.
To be clear, there are tonnes of cases like this in math history, but this ain’t one.
undiehunter on
This is stupid. this is like saying Albert Einstein “invented” time and space. Or man”invented” fire. There is nothing new under the sun, we just learn how to harness these concepts and utilize them to their values highest potential.
ncfears on
How did the pyramids require calculus?
AnachronisticPenguin on
There are no ancient structures that require calculus to build.
Calculus is about change and buildings are about static loads.
Unless you’re doing stress strain stuff with earthquakes or the wind what are you talking about requiring calculus?
tortorototo on
This is like saying cave men used elements of the printing press when they were imprinting their hands covered in animal blood on the cave wall.
Alkynesofchemistry on
In what manner did building the pyramids require calculus?
FreakinGeese on
Uh how did the pyramids take calculus to build?
MikolashOfAngren on
So OP, are you suggesting that the invention of calculus by Newton & Leibniz was unoriginal and… *derivative*? 😈
_Some_Two_ on
Ancient structures did not require calculus, only simple arythmetics and geometry. Calculus is a much more concrete and complex field of mathematics. I am not sure about Aryabhata, never heard about him, but I doubt he was inquiring into the calculation of infinities, differentials and integrals in the 6th century AD.
McKoijion on
Columbus did discover America though, right? Sure there were people already living in the “New” World, but non-white people don’t count.
Queasy-Group-2558 on
Ancient structures didn’t really require calculus though. Not sure about aryabhata or if they were using calculus.
samurai_for_hire on
You don’t need to be an engineer or even understand calculus to understand that limestone can support an insane amount of its own weight
unskippable-ad on
Pyramids required calculus? Why? Any use I can think of would be equally well served by a scale model
kennkki on
I have now started to believe that we do not discover anything, we rediscover it, just the ways are different
LadenifferJadaniston on
Was this before or after Newton invented gravity?
If it was before, it explains how they could build the pyramids so easily
Complex-Pace-1807 on
The Egyptians did not in fact use calculus to build the pyramids, it’s completely unnecessary.
Endless_road on
Can anyone explain how the pyramids would have needed calculus to build?
PositronicGigawatts on
The fuck is this horseshit? Might as well throw in UFOs and the Illuminati while you’re at it.
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I believe codified modern calculus is a better way to look at it. From my admittedly limited knowledge I am under the impression that it was a practical understanding ex. Construction worker vs academic understanding before their articulation.
Oddly things can be invented more than once.
For instance, although one place didn’t really use it, the wheel was invented in 2 distinct places of the world (at least), and there are at least 3 independent ‘inventions’ of writing (Fertile Crescent/Cuneiform, China/Oracle Bone writing, and Mesoamerican scripts – the last have the least clear provenance).
You forgot about the Chinese. Anyway, best described by Wikipedia … “Many elements of calculus appeared in ancient Greece, then in China and the Middle East, and still later again in medieval Europe and in India. Infinitesimal calculus was developed in the late 17th century by Isaac Newton and Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz independently of each other. An argument over priority led to the Leibniz–Newton calculus controversy which continued until the death of Leibniz in 1716.”
[citation needed]
I made a triangle out of clay when I was 7, I didn’t independently invent trigonometry.
Newton’s notation sucks. Leibniz forever!
There is a difference in kinda-winging it and actually having a discipline around it.
Early use of some elements of calculus and the infinitesimal calculus developed by Newton and Leibniz are very, very different things.
Those two people invented modern calculus. There is a massive difference. What the Egyptians and Indians used are precursors to modern calculus.
Our modern day notion of calculus is effectivly the study of limits and infinitesimals, notions introduced by Newton and Liebniz. Surely some results had been explored before throughout the world, but the modern study of calculus started with Newton and Liebniz.
To be clear, there are tonnes of cases like this in math history, but this ain’t one.
This is stupid. this is like saying Albert Einstein “invented” time and space. Or man”invented” fire. There is nothing new under the sun, we just learn how to harness these concepts and utilize them to their values highest potential.
How did the pyramids require calculus?
There are no ancient structures that require calculus to build.
Calculus is about change and buildings are about static loads.
Unless you’re doing stress strain stuff with earthquakes or the wind what are you talking about requiring calculus?
This is like saying cave men used elements of the printing press when they were imprinting their hands covered in animal blood on the cave wall.
In what manner did building the pyramids require calculus?
Uh how did the pyramids take calculus to build?
So OP, are you suggesting that the invention of calculus by Newton & Leibniz was unoriginal and… *derivative*? 😈
Ancient structures did not require calculus, only simple arythmetics and geometry. Calculus is a much more concrete and complex field of mathematics. I am not sure about Aryabhata, never heard about him, but I doubt he was inquiring into the calculation of infinities, differentials and integrals in the 6th century AD.
Columbus did discover America though, right? Sure there were people already living in the “New” World, but non-white people don’t count.
Ancient structures didn’t really require calculus though. Not sure about aryabhata or if they were using calculus.
You don’t need to be an engineer or even understand calculus to understand that limestone can support an insane amount of its own weight
Pyramids required calculus? Why? Any use I can think of would be equally well served by a scale model
I have now started to believe that we do not discover anything, we rediscover it, just the ways are different
Was this before or after Newton invented gravity?
If it was before, it explains how they could build the pyramids so easily
The Egyptians did not in fact use calculus to build the pyramids, it’s completely unnecessary.
Can anyone explain how the pyramids would have needed calculus to build?
The fuck is this horseshit? Might as well throw in UFOs and the Illuminati while you’re at it.
Trigonometry is not calculus.
Aryabhata is my favorite pasta sauce