They are sure kept close indirectly by the media polishing the Trurd and engaging in vile double standards.
The corruption runs pretty deep. And it doesn’t really matter if they do it for views and shareholder value, their owners or Putin. The end result is always the same:
Pretend Trump is not the most unqualified person to be running for president, ever.
gloriosky_zero on
It’s exhausting. When she wins I’ll unplug from all news for a month
celtic1888 on
During the Cohen testimony he mentioned spending money to influence polls for Trump
And no one ever decided to follow up on it with him
BluesSuedeClues on
The problem with this thinking is that it would require all of the dozens (hundreds?) of media outlets reporting on polling, to collude to tell the same story. All of those media outlets are competing for a finite amount of ad revenue and desperately eager to have a conflicting narrative from the popular one (right-wing media often compensates for that need by just manufacturing their own narratives). On top of that, polling firms like Pew or University ones have no stake in what the media may or may not want to be reporting.
Unless something dramatic occurs, Presidential polling tends to remain fairly static until shortly before the actual election, because most Americans are not spending a lot of time focusing on politics until they feel obligated to.
ImmediatelyOrSooner on
Don’t watch tv entertainment “news” just vote
VolcanicGreen on
Absolutely. VOTE!
saveMericaForRealDo on
Probably , however the Electoral College is the real prize. She needs to win that.
Don’t get complacent. This is our last chance to root out the stolen, corrupt Supreme Court.
It’s our duty to talk to each other and get folks to the polls in places it matters most and everywhere else.
dulyebr on
I’ve thought this for awhile now.
thekitchenaides on
🎯🎯🎯
IguaneRouge on
Because they want campaigns to buy ads.
FishermanEven4730 on
Where’s the followup show “The Real Housewives of MAGA”? I want to see them argue about conspiracy theories and buy MAGA merch with their Trump bucks.
Kiki_Go_Night_Night on
Hopefully the polls being close will encourage increased voter turnouts at levels we have never seen before.
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stipulus on
Honestly it always scratches that “hmmmm” part of my brain that the elections have been so consistently close. Gerrymandering and “battle ground state” focus can lead to that.. but still. Shenanigans.
Candle-Jolly on
I mean sure the news media is powerful, but come people, the world is not The Truman Show. Besides, there’s already enough suspense and drama without a massive coverup that would have been leaked the first minute it was tried.
-War in Israel
-War against Ukraine
-Trump doing something crazy every week
-Mass shootings every month
-Economic struggles
-Social struggles
-People still thinking the GLOBAL pandemic was fake
-etc
SaltyInternetPirate on
No, unfortunately people really are stupid enough to vote for Trump again.
stratj45d28 on
If you think you’re not being controlled by either party you need to change your mind
othybear on
Is it conspiratorial if I think the RNC is funding bad polls to bolster the eventual claims of voter fraud. If the polls are showing trump close/winning, then how could he possibly lose in those close states?
BigNorseWolf on
I don’t know if its the media or just you can’t sample people who don’t pick up the phone
signalfire on
Yeah, I’ve thought this for years. How can so many people be willing to vote for an obvious psychopath?
Bleezy79 on
Trump is trash. Nobody likes the guy. He has no policies he just complains and whines. It’s so tiresome. How can anyone want him around??
Thirdandary_Account on
In 2016, the media made it sound like Hillary was going to smash Trump. Lots of people didn’t vote because they thought she had it in the bag. Best not to make that mistake again.
PM_ME_UR_RESPECT on
Yep, I have a strong feeling this is what’s happening.
That being said, vote as if she’s behind anyways.
Amazing-Exit-2213 on
My wife insisted months ago that I request off from work on November 6th. We’ll either be drinking champagne or filling sandbags, possibly both.
VMCColorado on
Mothernaturehatesus on
I was just looking at 538 and thought the exact same thing. Although most presidential elections are decided by independents who don’t participate in most polls.
airborngrmp on
The excuse is that pollsters didn’t know trump had a chance in ’16 – and they were embarrassed by that fact. Since, they’ve been calling everything close for no further reason than to maintain their credibility in an increasingly unpredictable electorate.
GadreelsSword on
According to the polls Trump may be ahead in electoral votes.
CurrentlyLucid on
MSM ignores trump’s mush brain.
Feuertotem on
Unfortunately, when she wins there will be a month or two of chaos again.Because too many people who could stop the chaos have no spine.
dart22 on
That’s what they said about 2016. One big criticism of Nate Silver was that he was giving Trump an artificially high chance to win (at around 30%).
There are *a lot* of Trump loyalists out there, in every state.
rocket_beer on
2015 is a clear reminder to vote.
I don’t care about polls.
KoRaZee on
Wish this was true but unfortunately the real reason the polls are so close is much worse for society. The target demographic for each party is 51% of the people. Division by design
bakerstirregular100 on
Doesn’t the betting market disprove this? Or is that held artificially close too?
MagmulGholrob on
Oh yes! THE DONALD is the media’s golden calf. He keeps the people reading and clicking and watching. It’s like watching a car wreck. It’s awful, but you just have to look.
Robthebold on
After 2016, pollsters had to change how they approached polling, because DJT mobilized a previously inactive demographic to vote.
So that’s kinda baked into the formula now, however if that group is still motivated to vote, or if they feel disenfranchised again is a tough call.
If Trump gets them to the polls it’s close, if they stay home, it’s a landslide.
naththegrath10 on
Not really going to try and change your mind just a warning that this type of line makes you sound just like Trump voters… take polls with a grain of salt but to act like they are completely artificial is a really bad look and worse politics
norbertus on
I think the polls are so close because of how the two party system divies up the issues.
Harris is hawkish but will get the votes of 40 years of anti-war democrats; she has abandoned Medicare for all but will get the votes of the Obamacare democrats; she’s backing way from Biden’s aggressive wealth taxation plans, but will get the votes of Bernie backers.
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Vote. Vote. Vote.
They are sure kept close indirectly by the media polishing the Trurd and engaging in vile double standards.
The corruption runs pretty deep. And it doesn’t really matter if they do it for views and shareholder value, their owners or Putin. The end result is always the same:
Pretend Trump is not the most unqualified person to be running for president, ever.
It’s exhausting. When she wins I’ll unplug from all news for a month
During the Cohen testimony he mentioned spending money to influence polls for Trump
And no one ever decided to follow up on it with him
The problem with this thinking is that it would require all of the dozens (hundreds?) of media outlets reporting on polling, to collude to tell the same story. All of those media outlets are competing for a finite amount of ad revenue and desperately eager to have a conflicting narrative from the popular one (right-wing media often compensates for that need by just manufacturing their own narratives). On top of that, polling firms like Pew or University ones have no stake in what the media may or may not want to be reporting.
Unless something dramatic occurs, Presidential polling tends to remain fairly static until shortly before the actual election, because most Americans are not spending a lot of time focusing on politics until they feel obligated to.
Don’t watch tv entertainment “news” just vote
Absolutely. VOTE!
Probably , however the Electoral College is the real prize. She needs to win that.
Don’t get complacent. This is our last chance to root out the stolen, corrupt Supreme Court.
It’s our duty to talk to each other and get folks to the polls in places it matters most and everywhere else.
I’ve thought this for awhile now.
🎯🎯🎯
Because they want campaigns to buy ads.
Where’s the followup show “The Real Housewives of MAGA”? I want to see them argue about conspiracy theories and buy MAGA merch with their Trump bucks.
Hopefully the polls being close will encourage increased voter turnouts at levels we have never seen before.
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Honestly it always scratches that “hmmmm” part of my brain that the elections have been so consistently close. Gerrymandering and “battle ground state” focus can lead to that.. but still. Shenanigans.
I mean sure the news media is powerful, but come people, the world is not The Truman Show. Besides, there’s already enough suspense and drama without a massive coverup that would have been leaked the first minute it was tried.
-War in Israel
-War against Ukraine
-Trump doing something crazy every week
-Mass shootings every month
-Economic struggles
-Social struggles
-People still thinking the GLOBAL pandemic was fake
-etc
No, unfortunately people really are stupid enough to vote for Trump again.
If you think you’re not being controlled by either party you need to change your mind
Is it conspiratorial if I think the RNC is funding bad polls to bolster the eventual claims of voter fraud. If the polls are showing trump close/winning, then how could he possibly lose in those close states?
I don’t know if its the media or just you can’t sample people who don’t pick up the phone
Yeah, I’ve thought this for years. How can so many people be willing to vote for an obvious psychopath?
Trump is trash. Nobody likes the guy. He has no policies he just complains and whines. It’s so tiresome. How can anyone want him around??
In 2016, the media made it sound like Hillary was going to smash Trump. Lots of people didn’t vote because they thought she had it in the bag. Best not to make that mistake again.
Yep, I have a strong feeling this is what’s happening.
That being said, vote as if she’s behind anyways.
My wife insisted months ago that I request off from work on November 6th. We’ll either be drinking champagne or filling sandbags, possibly both.
I was just looking at 538 and thought the exact same thing. Although most presidential elections are decided by independents who don’t participate in most polls.
The excuse is that pollsters didn’t know trump had a chance in ’16 – and they were embarrassed by that fact. Since, they’ve been calling everything close for no further reason than to maintain their credibility in an increasingly unpredictable electorate.
According to the polls Trump may be ahead in electoral votes.
MSM ignores trump’s mush brain.
Unfortunately, when she wins there will be a month or two of chaos again.Because too many people who could stop the chaos have no spine.
That’s what they said about 2016. One big criticism of Nate Silver was that he was giving Trump an artificially high chance to win (at around 30%).
There are *a lot* of Trump loyalists out there, in every state.
2015 is a clear reminder to vote.
I don’t care about polls.
Wish this was true but unfortunately the real reason the polls are so close is much worse for society. The target demographic for each party is 51% of the people. Division by design
Doesn’t the betting market disprove this? Or is that held artificially close too?
Oh yes! THE DONALD is the media’s golden calf. He keeps the people reading and clicking and watching. It’s like watching a car wreck. It’s awful, but you just have to look.
After 2016, pollsters had to change how they approached polling, because DJT mobilized a previously inactive demographic to vote.
So that’s kinda baked into the formula now, however if that group is still motivated to vote, or if they feel disenfranchised again is a tough call.
If Trump gets them to the polls it’s close, if they stay home, it’s a landslide.
Not really going to try and change your mind just a warning that this type of line makes you sound just like Trump voters… take polls with a grain of salt but to act like they are completely artificial is a really bad look and worse politics
I think the polls are so close because of how the two party system divies up the issues.
Harris is hawkish but will get the votes of 40 years of anti-war democrats; she has abandoned Medicare for all but will get the votes of the Obamacare democrats; she’s backing way from Biden’s aggressive wealth taxation plans, but will get the votes of Bernie backers.